Great article as always. I was excited to share this with my american friends.
> "Almost every team we sat down with admitted, in some form, that they were scared of Doubao"
0) Truly understated by X(twitter) how bytedance is closest to Google/Alphabet in china. Doubao is actually very pleasant to use better than chatgpt and gemini.
Chinese ecosystem has always leaned more into voice interface and it's maturing well.
1) doubao's frontier model (`doubao-seed-2-0-pro-260215`) isn't even listed on any of benchmark sites like Artificial Analysis, lmarena, etc.
Likely because it's only(?) available through their cloud service ('volcengine') and not available through aggregators like OpenRouter.
But good example of tremendous dichotomy b/w how much china is up to date with developments in usa verses vice versa.
Those in Silicon Valley are allowed to have gods before the state. Some make themselves the gods, creating the future. Some make tech progress the future, humbly following its divination. In China there’s no space for considering what is driving the future outside of the state
I'd be curious to hear if any of the Chinese companies said (or were allowed to say) anything about the massive negative environmental impacts of their work. Is it currently the same as all the American companies where they either never mention it, or at most, wave their hands away and say that AI will magically solve that too?
Great article as always. I was excited to share this with my american friends.
> "Almost every team we sat down with admitted, in some form, that they were scared of Doubao"
0) Truly understated by X(twitter) how bytedance is closest to Google/Alphabet in china. Doubao is actually very pleasant to use better than chatgpt and gemini.
Chinese ecosystem has always leaned more into voice interface and it's maturing well.
1) doubao's frontier model (`doubao-seed-2-0-pro-260215`) isn't even listed on any of benchmark sites like Artificial Analysis, lmarena, etc.
Likely because it's only(?) available through their cloud service ('volcengine') and not available through aggregators like OpenRouter.
But good example of tremendous dichotomy b/w how much china is up to date with developments in usa verses vice versa.
also i feel like doubao isn’t trying to be the “most capable" model” but the “most useful tool”
Those in Silicon Valley are allowed to have gods before the state. Some make themselves the gods, creating the future. Some make tech progress the future, humbly following its divination. In China there’s no space for considering what is driving the future outside of the state
I'd be curious to hear if any of the Chinese companies said (or were allowed to say) anything about the massive negative environmental impacts of their work. Is it currently the same as all the American companies where they either never mention it, or at most, wave their hands away and say that AI will magically solve that too?
thank u will fix