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Great article as always. I was excited to share this with my american friends.

> "Almost every team we sat down with admitted, in some form, that they were scared of Doubao"

0) Truly understated by X(twitter) how bytedance is closest to Google/Alphabet in china. Doubao is actually very pleasant to use better than chatgpt and gemini.

Chinese ecosystem has always leaned more into voice interface and it's maturing well.

1) doubao's frontier model (`doubao-seed-2-0-pro-260215`) isn't even listed on any of benchmark sites like Artificial Analysis, lmarena, etc.

Likely because it's only(?) available through their cloud service ('volcengine') and not available through aggregators like OpenRouter.

But good example of tremendous dichotomy b/w how much china is up to date with developments in usa verses vice versa.

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Frontier culture contrasted with the Celestial Empire…

Interesting

This has happened before. 🫡

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